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Budget Charts a New Course for NASA

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By Jeff Foust

Tuesday, February 02, 2010

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For exploration beyond low Earth orbit (LEO), the budget includes support for research and development of future heavy-lift launch systems and related technologies, but without a specified timeline for actually building a vehicle.

NASA and the White House seemed to endorse the so-called "Flexible Path" option proposed by the Augustine Committee--an independent panel convened last year to examine NASA's human spaceflight plans. This approach would eschew an immediate return to the moon in favor of missions to near-Earth asteroids and Lagrange points as stepping stones to eventual missions to the moon and, later, Mars; an approach the panel argued didn't require the massive up-front expenditures of a moon-first plan.

The budget, though, does not say what those destinations might be, or when NASA could be ready to mount missions beyond LEO. "Rather than setting goals for destinations and timelines, we're setting goals for capabilities" that can enable such missions, said NASA's deputy administrator, Lori Garver, at a press conference on Monday.

The budget proposal, by coincidence, came out seven years to the day after the Space Shuttle Columbia was lost on reentry, killing the seven astronauts on board. The Columbia accident set in motion the development of what would become the Vision for Space Exploration.

It's likely that this new plan will face strong opposition by some members of Congress, particularly those who represent districts with close links to the Constellation program. One key senator made his opposition clear immediately after Monday's budget release.

"The president's proposed NASA budget begins the death march for the future of U.S. human spaceflight," said Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), the ranking member of the Senate appropriations subcommittee with oversight of NASA. "I will never support a NASA budget that does not have a robust human space exploration program grounded in reality."

Proponents of commercial human spaceflight, on the other hand, were delighted to see it endorsed in the NASA budget. "NASA investment in the commercial spaceflight industry is a win-win decision," said Brett Alexander, president of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation, a group of companies and organizations involved in this fledgling industry. He added that it would "create thousands of high-tech jobs in the United States, especially in Florida, while reducing the spaceflight gap and preventing us from sending billions to Russia."

Comments

  • Moon mission
    America needs to get it's priorities straight. It needs to stop wasting enormous amounts of energy and money on things that are of little benefit to anyone, like not wasting energy heating your homes when they can be insulated better etc. etc. If Americans did this then missions to the moon and Mars could be easily afforded. Get it right America!
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    DJTal
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  • >>> NASA is DEAD >>>
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    NASA is DEAD

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    Gaetano Mara...
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    • Re: >>> NASA is DEAD >>>
      No it's not.  NASA has done and will continue to do valuable science in space, such as observation of Earth climate and environment, studies of the Sun, and robotic missions to other planets and moons. It will also continue to support the development of space capabilities, at least according to this article.  If there is commercial value to space or the Moon, the private sector will jump in, as it has already started to.  I see NASA's role as kind of like DARPA - give money, encouragement, and support to smart people and see what happens.  Hopefully members of Congress can look beyond getting elected by making work for their constituents and see a longer term benefit from these decisions. 
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      mwilson1962
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      • Re: >>> NASA is DEAD >>>
        if we are not exploring, we are not developing techniques to explore or colonize. NASA's science missions are valuable, but they fundamentally look inward. we need a vision for human space exploration that looks outward and to the future. Mr. Bush at least went halfway there - he had a vision, but never followed up with the funding (not even in budget requests - that was not Congress' fault). Mr. Obama has a budget without a vision, very little more than the jobs programs to which you are so opposed. I would like to see real leadership - a vision, combined with the comitment to fight for true budgetary support. I am not, however, holding my breath.
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        smithsomian
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      • Re: >>> NASA is DEAD >>>
        NASA should leverage an infrastructure for getting us into space: It probably is time to turn hoisting humans over to private industry while deploying robots to build habitats in space and on the moon.
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        GaryB
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    • Re: >>> NASA is DEAD >>>
      You knucklehead. The Obama Administration has made a dramatic switch that will no doubt see to Americans landing on the moon and Mars before 2020. The article mentioned a few of the companies that NASA is working with and it represents a broad trend, starting with military technologies, towards the government wisely allocating funds to the private sector. This removes the bureaucracy from the R&D cycle while ensuring that the energy from the private sector is focused in a direction that will benefit humankind. @Gonska
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      jgonska
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      • Re: >>> NASA is DEAD >>>
        I agree that the added money towards private space exploration is positioned exactly at the right time. Corporations can be as bureaucratic as governments, but right now some of the best plans, and companies in space tourism and exploration are entrepreneurial minded innovators, whose industries are young enough to have the weight of ambition and enthusiasm. This may not be true 20 years from now. Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos for instance are rich but hungry. Creative and savvy. This is probably true of many other smaller suppliers of nanocomposites, spacesuits, solar sails and others inventions that are needed for another Moon mission, or hopefully a mission to Mars.
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        Matthew Putm...
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    • Re: >>> NASA is DEAD >>>
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      as clearly explained on ghostNASA [ http://www.ghostnasa.com/ ] the US space agency and the US manned spaceflight program have been killed by...
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      1. the Ares-1/5 LOBBY that wanted to earn over $50 billion of US taxpayers money to (just) develop two (BAD designed and NOT working) rockets
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      2. the Augustine Commission that has given to the US politics the ILLUSION that a "commercial space" exists and can replace the Shuttle and the Orion
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      3. the global economy and financial crisis that forced all governments (and especially the US one) to cut all unnecessary expenses and programs
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      and the most amazingly humoristic part of the new US spaceflight plan, are the $20 million (NOT $20 billion!!!) awarded to Sierra Nevada Corp. to ("""just""") develop and build a new Space Shuttle... :-)
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      surely, the Orion/Ares-1/5 LOBBY (inside and outside NASA) has 99% of guilt of the DEATH of NASA and Constellation because they (Griffin, the Ares-1 guys, ATK, LM, etc.) have promised in 2005 to develop, build and launch the Ares-1 and Orion within 2012 with a total budget of ONLY $5 billion for the Orion and $5 billion for the Ares-1
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      then, they have changed the design of the Ares-1 to earn $3 billion ONLY to add a 5th segment to the standard SRB and the whole program costs has grown to $35 billion for the Ares-1 and $9 billion for the Orion (+ further costs overruns...) while the first manned launches of the Orion/Ares-1 has been shifted to 2017 or LATER
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      this is a giant failure of the Orion/Ares-1/5 LOBBY that FORCED the President Obama to cut a program that has become more CRAZY every day with costs close to the GDP of several countries of the world!!!
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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29
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      Gaetano Mara...
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    • Re: >>> NASA is DEAD >>>
      Nasa was almost killed by the incompetents in the Glenn Research Center when they "forgot" to contact me, after I sent them the information of  the Technology of the Flying Saucer.
      After the Space Disasters, they caused another disaster.
      The big black-out of 2004.
      Now Nasa has one more chance. After June 15, 2010 it will be offered to Russia.
      Then men will visit the Moon in a few hours.
      Mars will take one day.
      Rockets are passe.
      In Russia the Academy of Sciences have been told that a different type of propulsion is needed for deep space.
      They will be receptive while the USA diddles.
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      Spacer
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  • New Course for NASA
    At last, NASA can now now focus its concentration  on climate theology.
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    mongander
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    • Re: New Course for NASA
      Yes, the real downside of this is the dedication of much of NASA's effort to "climate change" nonsense. It's already a**e-deep in fudging the data it collects to hype warming dangers. 
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      Brian H
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  • Criticism Deserved 
    I see a lot of sarcastic remarks, and no agency deserves it better than NASA.
    Like most Federal agencies it has lacked focus, become a jobs program, and has not accomplished what its job was.
    Namely, to get us into space cheaply and safely....
    But I see this as a positive change. Maybe a ray of hope.
      They may get their priorities straight and push the envelope of materials and technology we have today to achieve its mandate.
      Which will benefit us all in the long run.
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    DennisBuller
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    • Prizes! 
      About $1bn of that money should be set up as prizes for first moon landing, first capture of an asteroid, first manned touchdown on Mars or its moons, etc. No payout until someone succeeds. The X-prize model gets WAY more bang for the buck. 
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      Brian H
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  • Sit on our asses
    How 'bout we just sit on our asses in our own backyards while the rest of the world takes over in all technological areas?  Let's whine and cry about all the inequities and inequalities promulgated by the BAD AMERICANS and spend our money helping those who won't help themselves?  How 'bout we feel sorry for all those other countries who should have a chance to beat us in the Space Race (because that is exactly what it is).  How 'bout we spend large sums of money (much more than all the money NASA is budgeted) supporting people who don't work and companies that would have failed otherwise?  How 'bout we spend large sums of money on recreation programs for our children when a very large percentage of them are FAILING the BASICS?  We let kids play sports in school even though they can't pass their classes (a D is NOT passing). How 'bout we spend, oh let's say a TRILLION, dollars to support banks and lenders who made bad decisions?  How 'bout we "pour" TRILLIONS of dollars into the economy to provide a measley 600,000 jobs when millions more have lost their jobs and more are losing their jobs?.  How 'bout we borrow more money than we have from countries who are not our friends and put our great-great-great-great grandchildren in debt?  Why don't we tax to death the very class that basically drives the economy to support growth in welfare and other give-away programs?  Why don't we support small businesses who can only offer minimum wage jobs instead of industries that employs thousands of highly skilled well paying jobs as well as millions of supporting positions at large, medium, and small businesses?  I am beginning to see a trend in the programs and budget that our esteemed President is proposing and supporting.  It seems that the President and his cronies don't want well educated, well paid citizens but uneducated, underemployed, needy ones that they can control and manage (communism anyone?).
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    rshelton3000
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    • Re: Sit on our asses
      Someone watches Faux News. You might want to educate yourself on the policies that are being proposed since most of them agree with what Republicans have said they want. Just a suggestion.
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      naya
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    • Re: Sit on our asses
      Obviously Glenn Beck has started posting here.  The Republicans block anything that can help Americans in the name of reducing the budget. I would love to send people to the moon and mars.  In fact I watched the moon landing live, but in reality, we need to cut something and this is an area that we can lived without for now.  We are still exploring space and lead the world in that.

      Science education includes many areas as we can see on Tech Review, New Scientist, Scientific American and many other sites.  We need investment in getting kids to become engineers and scientists not Wall St. traders. It looks like the Obama adminstration has saved us from another depression, if he had not been elected, unemployment would be about double.  That doesn't mean everything is perfect, just better than it could have been.
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      JustaGuess
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      • Re: Sit on our asses
        Steeper economic declines than this one, such as in the early '20s and in 87, generated steep recoveries within a couple of years, with 6-8% growth. As soon as Big Gov steps in to help, as with FDR and Obongo, the recovery goes flat and stretches out indefinitely. Because the "unseen" costs of the stimulus and management from the top drain more than they contribute.

        Obongo never ran anything other than a government-parasite agency in his life, and it shows. 
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        Brian H
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  • I Love NASA
    Regardless of all the money they have supposedly wasted, NASA has enriched our lives in more ways than its critics can tell. The moon and Mars missions were priceless. Those Hubble images alone are worth it all. And they did it all with one of the most primitive, dangerous and expensive transportation technologies known to mankind, rocket propulsion. And that there is NASA's biggest problem. No other country is going to surpass the US in space exploration because they are all struggling against the same brick wall.

    Rest assured that we are not going to colonize the Moon, let alone the solar system and the star systems beyond with a bunch of clunky rockets. Rocket science may look cool but it’s way overrated. Fortunately for space fans, a breakthrough in our understanding of motion is about to change all that.

    A new analysis of the causality of motion leads to the conclusion that we are immersed in energy, lots and lots of it. Normal matter moves in an immense, crystal-like lattice of energetic particles without which neither gravity, nor electromagnetism, nor even motion would be possible. Soon we’ll use this knowledge to build vehicles that can move at enormous speeds and negotiate right angle turns without slowing down and without incurring damage due to inertial effects. Floating sky cities impervious to earthquakes, tsunamis and bad weather, New York to Beijing in minutes, Earth to Mars in hours; that’s the future of energy and travel.

    Physics: The Problem With Motion

    We all love Asimov’s dream of a galactic empire. We want to colonize the entire solar system and many other star systems beyond. Going back to the Moon using our current rocket propulsion technology is not the way to do it. What would be the point of that? Is the moon made of unobtainium? No it's not. What NASA should be doing is spending a boatload of money on developing new and revolutionary space propulsion technologies. Even the space station is a complete waste of time and money from humanity’s point of view, the few who are benefiting from it notwithstanding.

    We need a new foundational science of motion and propulsion. The current Newtonian paradigm is just not cutting it. It’s time for you rocket scientists to retire and give new brains with revolutionary ideas a turn at the wheel.

    PS. Don't say nobody told you because I just did. :-)
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    Mapou
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    • Re: I Love NASA
      If you can't explain what this revolutionary new means of propulsion is then you are not really in a position to criticize, you make no legitimate arguments. Either put up or shut up.
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      DJTal
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    • Re: I Love NASA
      Newton's Third Law works, and is demonstrated every day.

      If you've got something better, it must pass the 'Missouri Test.' (Show me)

      We can handwave all day with what we might do, using physics we don't yet know to exist...

      I think Isaac Asimov would be among the first to say that. He understood what physics he was bending, in order to make a good story possible. Carl Sagan DID say 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.'
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      delphinus100
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      • Re: I Love NASA
        Who said anything against any of Newton's laws of motion? What is being said is that Newton's laws do not explain the causality of inertial motion, only that of acceleration. I realize that most people believe otherwise but there is a need to explain why bodies keep moving in absence of acceleration. No, you don't know, sorry. The only explanation that makes sense is that we are immersed in energy. Deny at your own detriment.

        As far as extraordinary proof is concerned, that will come in due time. And when it does, you'll hear about it on the evening news. Just keep your ears open.
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        Mapou
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  • Top Priority: Manned Mission To A Near-Earth Asteroid
    Landing two geologist-astronauts on a near-earth asteroid should be at the top of the White House space agenda, as recommended by David Kagan, US aerospace engineer and author of the book Sunstroke. I agree with Kagan: too many large space rocks are whizzing closer and closer to Earth, and top science panels state that it's now time to determine the best way to divert them--before it's too late. Kagan advises that NASA in conjunction with private industry mount a crewed- mission to the nearest one to accurately determine the precise composition of these dangerous bodies to prevent an extinction level event on Earth (or the loss of a major population center). Lockheed-Martin has already built and successfully launched their Ares heavy-lift rocket--the successor to the fabulous Saturn V booster that sent Apollo astronauts to the Moon--and has developed a viable flight plan to safely carry out a crewed- mission to a nearby large space rock.

    Remember, that back in 1967 a panel of science experts urgently recommended that NASA put astronauts on a near-Earth asteroid for the same reasons using the giant Saturn V Moon rocket. Today, however, it will be far cheaper to "land" two astronauts on an asteroid using Lockheed-Martin's plan to "jet-pack" the crew to the asteroidal surface and back to their Command Module, without needing a landing vehicle akin to the Apollo lunar descent/ascent module.  Such a mission would have a big pay-back return by safeguarding our civilization, therefore being infinitely more important than maintaining the ISS. The hands-on science results would be far more valuable and comprehensive than data return from unmanned probes.
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    zuggernaut
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    • Re: Top Priority: Manned Mission To A Near-Earth Asteroid
      The value NASA has brought us is incalculable, and was clearly articulated in other comments. We need NASA as a incubator for new ideas - period. The R&D stuff they do gets transferred to the private sector where we see those new products.

      However, to those costs - it seems to me that a multinational effort, with multinational funding would take the burden off the American taxpayers backs. If anybody knows - I would like to know how much money China, Japan, Germany and other "trading partners" ante up to gain access to that pool of information the NASA teams have created over the years and of course the future.

      I am not bothered as much by the cost of doing this type of work, but more concerned that the money we spend is shifted away from US businesses and to the competition.

      For every US tax dollar spent in NASA, how much is returned to the US Tax payer vs profits for other countries?
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      mkogrady
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    • Re: Top Priority: Manned Mission To A Near-Earth Asteroid
      Redirecting a single 1-mi. diameter nickle-iron asteroid into near-Earth orbit would make readily available (elements are already mostly sorted by atomic weight within asteroids) more precious and base metals than have been mined on the planet in all history.  Value, about $1,000,000 per capita. That's about $6 quadrillion. Makes even Obeano's deficits look puny. 
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      Brian H
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  • Why do we need NASA?
    Here's a simple question:
    Why do we need NASA?
    Here's the best answer I could come up with:

    To find evidence of life on other planets.

    Finding life on other planets may not cause the world's economy to grow, but I bet you that things would chance on Earth if we knew about life on other planets.

    It won't help to feed, cloth, or house people in poverty, but it could re-excite the feeling of a new frontier.

    I know that my life would change if we found life on other planets. For example, I would probably spend a lot more more times reading journal articles from the astronomy community, feeling excited about what it would take to contact other lifeforms (intelligent or not.)

    So, with that aside, how do we quantify the impact that NASA has had on our lives? How do we quantify the effect of seeing a picture of the Earth from the Moon? Or of a picture of the Martian surface?

    I think that there is a tangible benefit to NASA, but I'm not sure how to quantify it.

    I think it has to do with engendering a sense of community. The question is: could there be a return on investment from investing in NASA?

    Sure, there's the argument that NASA creates great technology, but I don't buy that argument because if the goal is a certain technology, then it's always better to invest directly in the technology rather than in some round-about sort of way.

    Ultimately, I think that we have to invest in NASA because the exploration for new forms of life seems to build a sense of community that can't be done by any religion, any ideology, or any political party.

    There's something to be said about pointing the mirror back on one's self and seeing things anew for the first time. As a society, I think that we have to find ways of pointing the mirror back on ourselves. Landing on the moon, exploring other planets, and hopefully finding other forms of life should make us a more adaptive, self-reflective society, i.e. better able to cope with the uncertainty nature throws at us every day.
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    Devere
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    • Re: Why do we need NASA?
      Hey, Devere! Thanks for posting such an an eloquently written comment on this important TR story.

      In regards to your view of direct investing in technology vs NASA "spin-offs", have to agree with what I read in the book Sunstroke by David Kagan that spells out why NASA has created a myriad of invaluable "space spin-offs" such as personal computers, new super-heat resistant metallic and ceramic alloys, new forms of insulation, new composite carbon-epoxy materials, and so on (all derived from the Apollo manned Moon missions). This was indeed a diverse technological version of "The Cambrian Explosion" (a great biological event that created an infinite number of complex creatures in prehistoric times) which could only be brought about by the emotionally-driven geo-political climate existing in the 1960s. The US was desperate to be the first nation to land humans on the Moon and pulled out all the stops to accomplish it, thereby creating new technologies as a result of such a grand-slam effort. In contrast, cool-headed, purely stock market-driven tech investment simply ebbs and flows like the tide, but does have merit.

      Therefore the US needs another grand manned exploratory mission out of low-Earth-orbit to re-ignite the fires of private industry and government sci-tech think tanks to provide the world with the next giant leap in technology. Kagan has it right by recommending an urgently-needed manned mission to a near-Earth asteroid to prevent a devastating asteroidal-impact catastrophe here on our home planet. And Lockheed-Martin can do it in five years under NASA's superlative guidance. We need it.
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      zuggernaut
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  • Failure to invest in critical new technologies
    Critical new technologies are forced to fail and will never happen if congress and the President don't realize that developing game changing technologies with high risk, will always be over budget and behind schedule and can only be done by NASA.  The real question to ask, is what technologies are worth going the extra mile for? The last time NASA made an attempt a for critical new technologies the Single Stage to Orbit program (SSTO) with the X-33, congress killed it. The technologies in the X-33 like the aerospike engine, composite cryogenic fuel tanks, metallic thermal protection system,  autonomous (unmanned) flight control, and lifting body had the potential to at least, half the per pound cost to get into orbit. That's something worth going over budget for. Today the X-33 sits un-finished and un-tested in storage being harvested for parts. Parts sent to the next canceled project.



           The Obama administration’s plan is a mistake.   If we are to end the Space Shuttle program the United States government must have access to space independent of private industry. We need at least the Ares I to have human access to space and Ares V as heavy lifter from any extended activities in Earth orbit and beyond.   Killing the Constellation program that we spent 9 billion dollars on and will cost 2.5 billion to cancel is short sited and wasteful.  Its not the time for NASA to invest in unproven and higher risk “game changing” technologies or startup aerospace companies.  The Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) program is doing well at its current budget.   Should we hand money to SpaceX,  which has no man-rated experience for greater risk than NASA technology?   Our space goals shouldn’t be pawned off to get less value for our money  and decreased safety. 



           There is a very strong strategic justification for Ares I and Ares V.   In the near future we are looking at four new members to the human space flight community.   China, the EU, Japan, and India.  If NASA were absent, the US government would lose the expertise to assist and influence allies and understand where our adversaries intension's lie (peaceful exploration or weapons).    We need a man-rated civilian space agency that is independent from the pentagon and the president and reports to Congress without reservations.  Currently NASA is  the world authority on space and space technology.  How can The United States give away this leadership edge when the price to regain it would be astronomically costly and quite possibly impossible to catch up in a time of crisis?       

                

           NASA should promote the private/commercial sectors ambitions to send people into space but should not be out of the rocket building business for safety and to protect the space faring public, when the private sector has a catastrophic failure. Similar to the U.S. Coast Guard NASA must have the ability to rescue stranded passengers from private space stations or space hotels.  If commercial launches are suspended due to an accident or safety issue NASA must act. A second safety issue is the regulation of man rated rockets.  With no NASA rocket program, safety and proper regulation cannot be ensured because there will lack of expertise, facilities and R&D infrastructure to know what the right guidelines are.  This is the most complex and risky technology in the world the private sector can't do it alone.  No company without government money/resources assistance has ventured into space alone.
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    penzor
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  • Good, it's dead! Let's move on
    Frankly, I'm glad Constilation died. It was just not creative enough. Hey everybody, let's get excited about Apollo II! Let's get into the way back machine and travel to 40 years ago! yea, no... When NASA first began to tout the new program it seemed incredibly uninspired. It's dull, it's been done before. Good riddince to bad garbage.
    Let's talk about the future! Things that are on the drawing board are much more inovative and the cost to orbit are much much lower. The hurdle for all of this is of course the cost to orbit.$10,000 per pound to orbit is just too much. Can I imagine U.S. astronauts flying Virgin Galactic? That's just stupid, I mean really stupid. It's not going to happen stupid. Although it is a WAY cheaper cost to orbit. It's $600,000 per launch! That is a lot of trips to orbit for the cost of a single shuttle launch. It is a beggining all be it a suborbital beggining.
    I believe once we do have a lower cost to orbit then we will still have a lot of problems maintaining our place in space let alone traveling to the moon/mars. I mean once you are in space, do you think it's prodent to carry two years worth of MREs to mars? I think the best way to foster the technologies needed to travel outside of earth's orbit is by fostering our education system today. I mean I know that my pre-college education was horrible. We need inspiration and we need to foster our children's intrests. That is what NASA was good at for so long was inspiring us.
    Today however, I think as an american we need to do some soul searching. Frankly, I'm glad that China, India and others are beggining to go to space. I don't see it as a space race per se. It's more of a wake up call. China is still going things that look like Gemini. Japan is using atimated craft to supply the ISS. Where is the space race there? The U.S. still has plenty of time to inovate ourselves into a paradigm changer.
    Things to get excited about near-term are nano-tubes, water reclemation, and more powerful lasers. Those things are things that will bring down the cost of venturing into space and staying there. I say don't give the money to private enterprise, give it to the learning instituions. When has a military flight program ever gone on schedule or budget? If you want more inovation, let today's children and young adults have a chance to let their ideas flurish.
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    GIJoeKing
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  • nasa
    What is wrong with Orion?Scrap all those effete NASA cardboard "space craft" and send 1600 tons of payload into space in one fell swoop.
    Easy.
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    saladin1
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